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		<title>By: Maryam B.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 23:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that TweetDeck is really good for managing more than one account. You can make one TweetDeck account and then add lots of other sub accounts it&#039;s really convenient.

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		<title>By: Twitter for Business. Paul Kortman. &#171; Grand Rapids Social Marketing Lunch Meetup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitter for Business. Paul Kortman. &#171; Grand Rapids Social Marketing Lunch Meetup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Paul Kortman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kortman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jewel,
search.twitter.com try it out, search for terms people would be using, not spatran bran, but maybe orange juice.

There are privacy agreements, and twitter says if your stuff is not marked private (DM or protected updates) then it is public and anyone can mine it.

In general people don&#039;t have the time or desire to do these things themselves. They have full time work in their field. We show them how to do it and if they want assistance then we assist. It&#039;s about being there to serve the client and help the client tell their story.

More on a comprehensive online strategy later.

Next trend: There is a certain point where the trend gains such a large adoption that it is mainstream. Seeing twitter and facebook utilities on news media outlets is when I knew these tools were mainstream. (in a similar fashion to how the web became mainstream in the late 90&#039;s)

Jordan,
There is a user on twitter who tweets about a new office pig, I found out after using that analogy that she has protected tweets (private) so I cannot link to them. Bummer tho, they are quite funny.

I really like how you put it about Twitter: &quot;a product that can be whatever you want it to be&quot;

I&#039;m going to steal and use the analogy to telemarketing (already have!) That&#039;s good stuff!

Laura, 

Good questions. Twitter as a micro-blogging tool is however not there for the visual presence. There are a few elements (profile picture, and background/colors) which can be visually appealing, but the focus is on the content. The users choose how to consume it and chances are they might see your background once or twice at most. Your profile picture is how they recognize you and know you (as well as your username!)

I recommend changing imagery on twitter a few times a year, but no more than 4. If you do it too often you will loose people and they won&#039;t connect your new image with your old image and they won&#039;t track with your story.


Remington,

Twitter, nor any social media tool, will not replace personal communication in person or on the phone. But it can assist. I do not recommend making sales calls/follow ups via twitter. It&#039;s more of a general public communication tool. If you are communicating about a proposal on twitter you are using it wrong.

Kathleen,
I am not the best policy making person, but in general all companies should have a policy about internet usage. These tools should fall under that polcy. When it comes to the marketing team for an organization they need to embrace these as work tools not as personal (&quot;I&#039;m eating a donut waiting for my smoke break&quot;) tools. This means their activity should be trackable and billable (if that&#039;s their business model). And therefor since it is for work purposes they should be allowed to use these tools with the current policy (for work only)

Megan,
Tweetdeck is an awesome application, but it does not yet do multiple accounts. (It&#039;s still in a form of Beta) It allows you to consume twitter in a way that prevents noise and cuts right through to the signal. More on that app later.

Maria,
Agreed with all that... the tools are a bit new to get real good ROI numbers, and its different for every client. If your client needs to be positioned as an authority in their field (Healthcare) or do they need to sell widgets (manufacturing) or are they selling services (B2B) they all have different ROI&#039;s for twitter specifically and for all SM tools in general. But I think you have a good handle on the low hanging fruit of the ROI. Keep the good, tough questions coming! Maybe someday I&#039;ll answer them :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jewel,<br />
search.twitter.com try it out, search for terms people would be using, not spatran bran, but maybe orange juice.</p>
<p>There are privacy agreements, and twitter says if your stuff is not marked private (DM or protected updates) then it is public and anyone can mine it.</p>
<p>In general people don&#8217;t have the time or desire to do these things themselves. They have full time work in their field. We show them how to do it and if they want assistance then we assist. It&#8217;s about being there to serve the client and help the client tell their story.</p>
<p>More on a comprehensive online strategy later.</p>
<p>Next trend: There is a certain point where the trend gains such a large adoption that it is mainstream. Seeing twitter and facebook utilities on news media outlets is when I knew these tools were mainstream. (in a similar fashion to how the web became mainstream in the late 90&#8242;s)</p>
<p>Jordan,<br />
There is a user on twitter who tweets about a new office pig, I found out after using that analogy that she has protected tweets (private) so I cannot link to them. Bummer tho, they are quite funny.</p>
<p>I really like how you put it about Twitter: &#8220;a product that can be whatever you want it to be&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to steal and use the analogy to telemarketing (already have!) That&#8217;s good stuff!</p>
<p>Laura, </p>
<p>Good questions. Twitter as a micro-blogging tool is however not there for the visual presence. There are a few elements (profile picture, and background/colors) which can be visually appealing, but the focus is on the content. The users choose how to consume it and chances are they might see your background once or twice at most. Your profile picture is how they recognize you and know you (as well as your username!)</p>
<p>I recommend changing imagery on twitter a few times a year, but no more than 4. If you do it too often you will loose people and they won&#8217;t connect your new image with your old image and they won&#8217;t track with your story.</p>
<p>Remington,</p>
<p>Twitter, nor any social media tool, will not replace personal communication in person or on the phone. But it can assist. I do not recommend making sales calls/follow ups via twitter. It&#8217;s more of a general public communication tool. If you are communicating about a proposal on twitter you are using it wrong.</p>
<p>Kathleen,<br />
I am not the best policy making person, but in general all companies should have a policy about internet usage. These tools should fall under that polcy. When it comes to the marketing team for an organization they need to embrace these as work tools not as personal (&#8220;I&#8217;m eating a donut waiting for my smoke break&#8221;) tools. This means their activity should be trackable and billable (if that&#8217;s their business model). And therefor since it is for work purposes they should be allowed to use these tools with the current policy (for work only)</p>
<p>Megan,<br />
Tweetdeck is an awesome application, but it does not yet do multiple accounts. (It&#8217;s still in a form of Beta) It allows you to consume twitter in a way that prevents noise and cuts right through to the signal. More on that app later.</p>
<p>Maria,<br />
Agreed with all that&#8230; the tools are a bit new to get real good ROI numbers, and its different for every client. If your client needs to be positioned as an authority in their field (Healthcare) or do they need to sell widgets (manufacturing) or are they selling services (B2B) they all have different ROI&#8217;s for twitter specifically and for all SM tools in general. But I think you have a good handle on the low hanging fruit of the ROI. Keep the good, tough questions coming! Maybe someday I&#8217;ll answer them :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook &#38; Twitter Examples for Businesses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook &#38; Twitter Examples for Businesses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice job explaining the basics, the different types to consider, etc.  I also think you gave some nice examples for B2C situations. I agree that twitter and things like it are here to stay and that getting clients acclimated and using them appropriately (if not already) is valuable. I&#039;d like to see more examples on B2B situations, and I&#039;m looking forward to more examples on ROI to come that will help connect the dots for clients in their unique situations. 

Is it possible that for many right now (especially B2B), its:

1)  primary ROI is improving google ranking, and therefore generating more productive leads online.

2)  something that simply indicates to the online community that they are with the times and not falling behind.

I think that in addition to providing strategy and resources to help clients do &quot;social media&quot;, value can be provided by helping them determine when one of the SM tools is an appropriate spoke in the wheel, and how those tools should function in an integrated fashion with other relevant marketing communications  or public relations tactics.  

I&#039;m reminded of my days as a law librarian when the internet was exploding, and all the talk was about the paperless office, no need for books, etc.  Librarians added tremendous value at the time by helping their constituents understand that various tools available to them, when one tool was more suited to a situation than another, and how to use the respective tool effectively.  Similar situation today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job explaining the basics, the different types to consider, etc.  I also think you gave some nice examples for B2C situations. I agree that twitter and things like it are here to stay and that getting clients acclimated and using them appropriately (if not already) is valuable. I&#8217;d like to see more examples on B2B situations, and I&#8217;m looking forward to more examples on ROI to come that will help connect the dots for clients in their unique situations. </p>
<p>Is it possible that for many right now (especially B2B), its:</p>
<p>1)  primary ROI is improving google ranking, and therefore generating more productive leads online.</p>
<p>2)  something that simply indicates to the online community that they are with the times and not falling behind.</p>
<p>I think that in addition to providing strategy and resources to help clients do &#8220;social media&#8221;, value can be provided by helping them determine when one of the SM tools is an appropriate spoke in the wheel, and how those tools should function in an integrated fashion with other relevant marketing communications  or public relations tactics.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of my days as a law librarian when the internet was exploding, and all the talk was about the paperless office, no need for books, etc.  Librarians added tremendous value at the time by helping their constituents understand that various tools available to them, when one tool was more suited to a situation than another, and how to use the respective tool effectively.  Similar situation today.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan LaSorsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan LaSorsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admittedly, I was behind in the world of social media and the truth is, I liked being behind in it. I liked being the friend who wasn&#039;t worried about if they should be &quot;friends&quot; with someone, or if they posted a funny tweet for the day. But, I was being pretty naive not learning more, quickly, especially as a part of the marketing community. No worries though, I&#039;m catching up, jumping in, and learning more -- happy to be doing so.

And, thinking back and reading this series, was like a lightbulb moment. It is going to sound stupid, but, it&#039;s not so small as to think it&#039;s about whether a person has something profound to tweet about from their day.  It can be about their brand - a place for sharing news, hearing concerns, and finding more information from others in the field.  Yea, yea, I&#039;m just recapping some of your thoughts, but, it&#039;s all sinking in at the moment.

So, I appreciate your time to layout this strategy.  I found it straightforward and an easy read, thanks to the examples.

Also, saw your suggestion to use Tweetdeck for managing multiple accounts. Is this an application that makes this easier, or provides multiple accounts in one places, cross-platform too? Sounds too easy...guess that&#039;s the point. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admittedly, I was behind in the world of social media and the truth is, I liked being behind in it. I liked being the friend who wasn&#8217;t worried about if they should be &#8220;friends&#8221; with someone, or if they posted a funny tweet for the day. But, I was being pretty naive not learning more, quickly, especially as a part of the marketing community. No worries though, I&#8217;m catching up, jumping in, and learning more &#8212; happy to be doing so.</p>
<p>And, thinking back and reading this series, was like a lightbulb moment. It is going to sound stupid, but, it&#8217;s not so small as to think it&#8217;s about whether a person has something profound to tweet about from their day.  It can be about their brand &#8211; a place for sharing news, hearing concerns, and finding more information from others in the field.  Yea, yea, I&#8217;m just recapping some of your thoughts, but, it&#8217;s all sinking in at the moment.</p>
<p>So, I appreciate your time to layout this strategy.  I found it straightforward and an easy read, thanks to the examples.</p>
<p>Also, saw your suggestion to use Tweetdeck for managing multiple accounts. Is this an application that makes this easier, or provides multiple accounts in one places, cross-platform too? Sounds too easy&#8230;guess that&#8217;s the point. :)</p>
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		<title>By: kathleenddm</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathleenddm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - thanks for all the posts, lessons and conversations on twitter.  Being so new to all of this social networking, I too feel like I needed the crash course on twitter especially.  And you did that very nicely here.  These were interesting and enlightening to read.  I don&#039;t think I am a person that is shy of technology, but starting on Facebook and now twitter have me spinning with thoughts about how this best could be applied to our clients. ddm is very good in doing due diligence on behalf of our clients.  This is no different.  We would look at what social marketing tools are appropriate, what the approach would be, what limitations it should have, who is the audience, etc.  All the things we do now to approach a client with strategic recommendations for any type of work, would be applied here.  
One of my thoughts / concerns / questions is wondering what kind of company policy recommendations should people think about for their own employees?  Remember when (probably before you were born!) the internet was brought into our work life?  I worked for a large corporation at the time and they quickly drew up policies against being on the internet and email for anything other than for &quot;work&quot;.  Is there that same hesitation for employers to allow time spent on Facebook, myspace, LinkedIn and twitter during their work day? 
I am looking forward to learning, listening, tweeting.  
Thanks again Paul!  Keep the info coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; thanks for all the posts, lessons and conversations on twitter.  Being so new to all of this social networking, I too feel like I needed the crash course on twitter especially.  And you did that very nicely here.  These were interesting and enlightening to read.  I don&#8217;t think I am a person that is shy of technology, but starting on Facebook and now twitter have me spinning with thoughts about how this best could be applied to our clients. ddm is very good in doing due diligence on behalf of our clients.  This is no different.  We would look at what social marketing tools are appropriate, what the approach would be, what limitations it should have, who is the audience, etc.  All the things we do now to approach a client with strategic recommendations for any type of work, would be applied here.<br />
One of my thoughts / concerns / questions is wondering what kind of company policy recommendations should people think about for their own employees?  Remember when (probably before you were born!) the internet was brought into our work life?  I worked for a large corporation at the time and they quickly drew up policies against being on the internet and email for anything other than for &#8220;work&#8221;.  Is there that same hesitation for employers to allow time spent on Facebook, myspace, LinkedIn and twitter during their work day?<br />
I am looking forward to learning, listening, tweeting.<br />
Thanks again Paul!  Keep the info coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Remington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Remington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great conversation we have going here.  I appreciate the different angles presented -- I&#039;m learning a lot about the marketing world, both on and offline.  While I&#039;ve been on FB since college, I&#039;m far less active now and I am yet to join twitter.  I keep saying &quot;I&#039;ll join when I get my iPod Touch...&quot;, which hasn&#039;t happened yet.  In any case, I appreciate the push to learn what all the hype is about.

There is one thing I would like to add.  As a guy who thrives on real life personal interaction (contrasted with &quot;virtual&quot; interaction), I will echo Mike&#039;s comment in our meeting today: There is nothing more impacting than a face-to-face meeting with a client.  Now, there are certainly benefits to digital communication, such as its speed and convenience, but they come with a cost.  It is important to remember that FB and Twitter are one way to start a relationship--and even maintain it--but you can only reach a certain depth in the virtual world.  I recommend using virtual mediums as a means of getting face to face with your clients whenever possible.  For clients in a different state, maybe a phone call or web conference is the best you can do, but that&#039;s still more personal than 140 characters of text, no matter how frequently you tweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great conversation we have going here.  I appreciate the different angles presented &#8212; I&#8217;m learning a lot about the marketing world, both on and offline.  While I&#8217;ve been on FB since college, I&#8217;m far less active now and I am yet to join twitter.  I keep saying &#8220;I&#8217;ll join when I get my iPod Touch&#8230;&#8221;, which hasn&#8217;t happened yet.  In any case, I appreciate the push to learn what all the hype is about.</p>
<p>There is one thing I would like to add.  As a guy who thrives on real life personal interaction (contrasted with &#8220;virtual&#8221; interaction), I will echo Mike&#8217;s comment in our meeting today: There is nothing more impacting than a face-to-face meeting with a client.  Now, there are certainly benefits to digital communication, such as its speed and convenience, but they come with a cost.  It is important to remember that FB and Twitter are one way to start a relationship&#8211;and even maintain it&#8211;but you can only reach a certain depth in the virtual world.  I recommend using virtual mediums as a means of getting face to face with your clients whenever possible.  For clients in a different state, maybe a phone call or web conference is the best you can do, but that&#8217;s still more personal than 140 characters of text, no matter how frequently you tweet.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Palma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Palma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thinking Paul!
Love the dialogue that is created from your posts. It helps as a FAQ in my head, no need to ask, it is responded to in the next comment/posting from someone.

I do wonder however. This media is brand exposure - whether personal or business. How can I create the visual essence of my brand on these pages? I see some choices under Design in the settings but then you are like the masses. And this communication is suppose to be so specific as to what I am doing or about or my business. I explored prettytweet.com and again, more of the masses kind of choices. So I created my own background but then kept running into blocks on getting it uploaded. 

Do you recommend this kind of thing for a visual presence as well? How often do you change/refreshen it up? 

Thanks for all your input and insights. Keep it comin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thinking Paul!<br />
Love the dialogue that is created from your posts. It helps as a FAQ in my head, no need to ask, it is responded to in the next comment/posting from someone.</p>
<p>I do wonder however. This media is brand exposure &#8211; whether personal or business. How can I create the visual essence of my brand on these pages? I see some choices under Design in the settings but then you are like the masses. And this communication is suppose to be so specific as to what I am doing or about or my business. I explored prettytweet.com and again, more of the masses kind of choices. So I created my own background but then kept running into blocks on getting it uploaded. </p>
<p>Do you recommend this kind of thing for a visual presence as well? How often do you change/refreshen it up? </p>
<p>Thanks for all your input and insights. Keep it comin!</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, information overload after a vacation.. but let me see if I can give you anything useful. I appreciate your breaking the tweeple into three categories, I really do think some users use one account in a really confusing manner, and to be honest a time-sucker for people like me who prefer to get relevant information (tech tips, interesting news, etc) and not what someone is eating, watching on tv, etc. I do think Twitter is/will continue to be an important marketing tool, but also think it has the possibility of just becoming too much too look at on a daily basis. Quite possibly there are features in place for weeding through tweets that I&#039;m not aware of yet. For those who need to balance a family life, friends, commitments to church/organizations and remaining billable at work (LOL) - finding time to sift through all of this can be daunting. I&#039;m sure the unfollow feature will get more popular the bigger this all becomes.

I do agree with others, it is not for every business - it may be because the nature of product or service provided or the intended audience is just not twitter-friendly. It needs to make sense before adding it to market strategy. 

Great article Paul. I&#039;m also looking forward to hearing more about this and learning my way around all these tools. 

By the way, I am drinking coffee at my desk, I just feel the need to give my status at all times.
 ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, information overload after a vacation.. but let me see if I can give you anything useful. I appreciate your breaking the tweeple into three categories, I really do think some users use one account in a really confusing manner, and to be honest a time-sucker for people like me who prefer to get relevant information (tech tips, interesting news, etc) and not what someone is eating, watching on tv, etc. I do think Twitter is/will continue to be an important marketing tool, but also think it has the possibility of just becoming too much too look at on a daily basis. Quite possibly there are features in place for weeding through tweets that I&#8217;m not aware of yet. For those who need to balance a family life, friends, commitments to church/organizations and remaining billable at work (LOL) &#8211; finding time to sift through all of this can be daunting. I&#8217;m sure the unfollow feature will get more popular the bigger this all becomes.</p>
<p>I do agree with others, it is not for every business &#8211; it may be because the nature of product or service provided or the intended audience is just not twitter-friendly. It needs to make sense before adding it to market strategy. </p>
<p>Great article Paul. I&#8217;m also looking forward to hearing more about this and learning my way around all these tools. </p>
<p>By the way, I am drinking coffee at my desk, I just feel the need to give my status at all times.<br />
 ;)</p>
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